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By Marvin Ganote: Adult Bible and Sunday School Teacher / Discipleship Training Instructor
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THE NEW WAR
Baptist Faith and Message
Please read: Stating Baptist Doctrine: When Is It Meddling?
The SBC has now turned the Baptist Faith and Message into a CREED! Woe to us!
Dr. H. H. Hobbs said that the Baptist Faith and Message (BF&M) comprises “basic elements of faith generally agreed upon by Southern Baptists.” Further the 1962 Southern Baptist Convention, meeting in San Francisco, adopted a motion to revise the 1925 BF&M and declared in item (5) of the statements in the BF&M “(5) That they are statements of religious convictions, drawn from the Scriptures, and are not to be used to hamper freedom of thought or investigation in other realms of life.”
In the Dallas Morning News of Saturday February 2, 2002 was an article that “Southern Baptist missionaries were asked this week to affirm the specifics of their beliefs with a signature.” These beliefs are defined by the 2000 BF&M. The Dayton Daily New, April 18, 2003 ran the Associated Press stating “The Southern Baptist Convention has told its overseas missionaries they have until May 5 to affirm the denomination’s revised statement of faith…Rankin sent letters to 25 missionaries asking them to affirm the statement, resign from their posts, or face possible dismissal.”
Dr. Hobbs wrote a book in 1971 entitled “THE BAPTIST FAITH AND MESSAGE” to help Southern Baptists understand more fully the BF&M. He stated then that Baptists have always solved the problem faith differences “by adhering to the principle of the competency of the soul in religion.” He wrote on page 11 about the state of the faith of Southern Baptists that it is “a living faith rather than a creedal one. The tensions created by these differences have kept their faith vibrant. In all likelihood the only thing that would divide Southern Baptists with regard to their faith would be for one group – to the right or left of center or even in the center – to attempt to force upon others a creedal faith. So long as they hold to the competency of the soul in religion they will remain as one body in faith. The very differences which disturb some will serve as counterbalances between extremes with the vast majority remaining in between as always.”
The SBC leadership has now done what Dr. Hobbs feared. They have turned the BF&M into a CREED to define whether a person, a missionary, and a group are proper Southern Baptists. Unless they immediately stop, and return to the long held Baptist belief of the competency of the soul in religion, the SBC will continue to go against John 17:21-23 and hinder the witness that is the core of the SBC. I am thoroughly Baptist, but the BF&M to me is not a creed and the 2000 version has some wrong doctrine. I cannot affirm it as a correct statement of my faith. I can do so with the 1963 statement.
Dr. Hobbs, in his book, page 13 wrote “Baptists have always shied away from anything that resembled a creed or a statement of beliefs to which people were forced to subscribe.” Then on page 16 he wrote: “No, the 1963 statement of the Baptist faith and message is not a creedal statement.” Unfortunately this is not the case today with the SBC leadership. [Dr. Hobbs was booed at the 1980 SBC Convention because he tried to call for a renewed commitment to evangelism and commitment (see First Baptist Church of Oklahoma City (FBC of OKC) Position Report).] The SBC today is doing this to our fine missionaries, WHERE WILL THEY STOP? Who will they go after next? It is overtime to get back to being Baptists who hold no creeds nor force a statement of subscription. The future of the SBC is in balance at this moment. It is extremely serious. The purging has begun: MASSACHUSETTS--IMB trustees terminate service of 13 for refusal to affirm BF&M.
Read the Position Report Dr. Hobbs’ former church (First Baptist Church of Oklahoma City) had to take to uphold the Historical Tenets of the Baptist Faith. Note that they used the work of Dr. Hobbs as a major resource. This is never easy or popular, but true doctrine must be upheld. I agree with their report, as a past member of the FBC of OKC and Bible teacher.
A COUNTER WORD
The expected justification of this is revision of the BF&M is underway. As is the expected statements like “While dismissing the Baptist Faith and Message as a creed, critics likewise demean it for supposedly attempting to change Southern Baptist beliefs. In reality, the 2000 BF&M has not changed any beliefs at all. Recent revisions have simply spoken to contemporary issues by confessing what the Bible has always taught -- and Southern Baptists have always believed and practiced -- about the role of pastoral leadership and the spiritual order of the home and to affirm that the entire Bible is the inspired, infallible Word of God, not just that spoken by and with reference to Jesus, all of which have been under attack by postmodern thinking.” This is by Jerry Rankin, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's International Mission Board, at http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=16623.
The Word of God is infallible, but the ability of people to always read and understand it correctly is not. The holding of certain positions within the SBC does not give the holder any automatic stamp on what is pronounced as “thus says the Lord” any more than it does for the Pope. Nor does the majority automatically have it either. Again note Dr. Hobbs’ words above. The 2000 BF&M has been changed to enhance male authority and not to clarify what the Bible states. E.Y. Mullins did make it clear in 1925 that the original Baptist Faith and Message stated this was definitive confession of faith that was to be an instrument of doctrinal accountability for preachers, professors and those representing the denomination. But a confession of faith is not a creed. It is statements of religious convictions. It is valid only when it is Biblically correct. I hold to the 1925 BF&M with no reservation, as I do the 1963 revision. Dr. Rankin seems to ignore Dr. Hobbs’ statements as the chairman 1963 committee. Certainly there has to be definite statements of correct belief that positions sent out under the name of the SBC must hold. But any such statement must be Biblically correct for this testing to be valid.
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Here is a list of resources that give the correct view on Revelation, whether by Dr. Hobbs or others.
MARRIAGE DEFINITION: Amen to the Vatican. Quotes: “the certainty that marriage exists solely between a man and a woman”; “Marriage is holy, while homosexual acts go against the natural moral law…. Under no circumstances can they be approved… Sacred Scripture condemns homosexual acts “as a serious depravity...”; “Nonetheless, according to the teaching of the Church, men and women with homosexual tendencies “must be accepted with respect, compassion and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided”.(7) They are called, like other Christians, to live the virtue of chastity.(8) The homosexual inclination is however “objectively disordered”(9) and homosexual practices are “sins gravely contrary to chastity”.(10)”
So get ready and stay ready! WITNESS DAILY! Show you want Jesus to come today.
Best Study Guide: How to Study the Bible Principles with Bible Study Sources by Orin T. Binkley
Best Translation of the New Testament: THE NEW TESTAMENT in the Language of the People, Translated from the Greek by CHARLES B. WILLIAMS
The Baptist Faith and Message text on SBC site. I hold firmly to it as faithful statement of what the Bible says.
The Baptist Faith and Message and Calvinism - Totally incompatible!
LifeWay Sermons on the Baptist Faith and Message. I partially agree with these sermons, since they have changed. I reject Calvinism, except for eternal security.
Note this extract on Election sermon 8: “The reason the nature and basis of election are not defined is because Baptist have never really ever been able to agree on the basis and nature of election. There are some things upon which we will only find agreement in heaven, there are some things which God has chosen not to reveal to us and finally there are some things upon which we all seem to agree.” What an appalling position that LifeWay and the SBC has taken. Most importantly, this erroneous doctrine of election by Calvinism ignores the fundamental truth that God endowed human beings with freedom of choice. God tells us who he elects in John 3:16!
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